I met Philippa Gregory and Margaret George at the National Book Festival!

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So the National Book Festival was in friggin AUGUST and I still haven’t posted these pictures of me with some of my favorite authors up anywhere so here, here they are finally.

I went to see Philippa Gregory really, but I was delighted to realize that I knew the other author on the Historical Fiction panel as well: Margaret George! She wrote a wonderful book called “The Autobiography of Henry VIII” that I read years ago and really loved; it’s one of the very few books I’ve ever read that chronicles Henry’s life from beginning to end and it offered a great POV that I really appreciated. I still often think of it when I’m learning about Henry VIII in different contexts.

It was really inspiring to hear them discuss different aspects of their work; I basically want to be them when I grow up so I’m really happy I got to hear them talk!

Me with Philippa Gregory, getting my Tidelands book signed!

Me with Philippa Gregory, getting my Tidelands book signed!

Various quotes and tidbits: (these are from my notes and are as accurate as possible, but I was taking them rather quickly so there may be some errors)

Research:

Margaret George and Philippa Gregory both said they prefer to visit the places in which the events of their books occurred if possible.

PG: “Research is really just lots of reading. Which is a good thing to say at a book festival. Some people think there’s a secret trick like you go talk to people and they tell you everything but no, it’s really just reading.”

How their books relate to modern issues:

MG said Nero is oddly a modern character. “He wanted to be an artist - but instead he had to be an emperor- so many people had died to make him emperor that he couldn’t really say no, I want to go be an artist.”

PG: “[The presence of modern issues in my books] is not intentional- but I can’t shut the door on it- the whole idea is to have a window onto history - just by reading my book you can tell I’m from Sussex university in the 1980s. You can’t escape your own consciousness…. I try not to be anachronistic in any way, I try not to drag in politics like a cat dragging in a dead bird, like ‘because I’m interested in this you must be in it.’”

MG: you can date movies by the time period they’re filmed in- from their makeup and hair, etc - books are the same.

Moderator: that’s why historiography is so interesting - likes to see what other people on the past thought of their history and how that informed their lives
Interesting things about their characters:

MG: Nero wasn’t even there at the Fire of Rome. But people at the time said he was performing his ode to the fall of Troy (he had a thing about Troy), and they said the backdrop was just too much to resist, so he would go play it there. But it bothered him because the truth was the opposite. The common people loved Nero!

Tacitus said wild improprieties - it was really just chariot riding and acting. Nero couldn’t get an honest judgment at the time whether he was really any good as an artist. So we can’t get an honest answer in modern day either.  

Only 4 lines of his poetry survived. None of his music. Golden house survived but that’s it - it’s the only proof we have of his artistic talent 

PG: The extent of the way women were treated in medieval society - that Henrietta Maria (queen of Charles I) - she was catholic so English schools had taught against her - she was very authoritative and bossy with her . “We don’t like bossy little women, which is a pity, since many of us are.” /laughs, claps/

Has a reputation as a bad adviser. What I didn’t know- she landed in England under cannon fire with her army and marches around England as a queen militant. She was far more courageous and enterprising than history books say. The slight bias of history- how it obscures some really interesting women.

Me with Margaret George, getting my Confessions of Young Nero copy signed!

Me with Margaret George, getting my Confessions of Young Nero copy signed!

Why PG switched from writing about royalty to writing about a commoner (in Tidelands):

I wrote by royalty very much as an accident. What I was interested in was women in history and you can only find out about women in history if they’re around important men. Eg we don’t know Anne Boleyn’s birthday. There are so many women of just such huge interest who played such a big role in English history that we only know about if they’re associated with the king- etc - Elizabeth Woodville (know she’s with the king or pregnant). Mary Boleyn- led to interest in Catherine- to MIL Elizabeth Woodville, And then 20 years later you look up and find yourself an expert on English royalty and I am by character and interest anti-monarchy.

And people ask me about royal weddings and such and Reaky, they’re just very boring. I’m interested in tyrants really, the boleyns and the Tudors and the Plantagenets bit when you get to the Windsors, just not really interested 

For her Midwife character: got a lot of records from criminal trials for witchcraft (which aren’t necessarily content-helpful because it’s about men saying why she’s a witch) all the evidence at the trial is truly male sexual fantasy and fiction but it GIVES you information about these women who were tried and then unfortunately burned 

In Tudor Times there were women harvesting gangs that would harvest and drink and it sounds like a good party. Well that had to go away as nobles enclosed more and more of the land. There was growth of the idea that poverty shouldn’t be resolved by individual gifts but in an organized way. You can’t just go knock on your neighbor’s and ask for help now, have to go apply for help- it was very alienating.

Setting- the tides in and out, sets the entire course of the day. Tide mills - operates as a usual mill but it runs based on the tide - used to be hundreds of them. Now there are only 2 - went to one and talked to the miller and had one of the most comical conversations ever in researching a book. “If you were going to put a woman on the wheel to say, drown her, how would you do that?” Looked at her in horror and said “Nobody has ever asked that” “well how would you” “well how heavy is she?” 

MG: Agrippina was a huge driver of Nero’s life. He fell in love with a freedwoman in youth and wanted to marry her, friends his entire life, willed her things, she held Nero’s funeral. In Rome, women had no political office, so they were strong behind the scenes, but they were not allowed in public life.

Compared Nero to The Godfather _ dark side etc (her feelings, not historical record).

3 sides - son of Augustus/young emperor, artistic side, dark side who made the other two possible

Nero’s coinage is really considered super beautiful. The coins show his face changing as he gains weight and gets a double chin 

A lot of the judgment about him was around the time - emperor Hadrian had a lot in common with him and we love him- but that occurred 50-60 years later. MG compares their respective reputations to the way we talk about same sex marriage and race now versus 50-60 years ago.

What do you want readers to come away with?

PG: It makes her happy when readers are inspired to study history after reading her novel. She wants her readers to like the novel and say it’s good really. Some people reflect on their lives and such. But really I want them to think it’s a good book and then buy the next one. 

MG- going for a Shakespearean tragedy feel of “woe and wonder.” 

Q&As:

Is it harder to write dialogue of historical people or composite fictionalized people? 

MG: Finds it easier to do historical, sine you have a record, and know what they might say.

PG: with a known character, it can be lovely to weave their real speech in there if you can. Plus most of what people think they know about historical women is incorrect- she enjoys taking on well known women and being out new sides of them.

MG feels same way 

Queer or LGBT people portrayals? 

MG- Nero dresses up a guy as his dead wife (maybe more of a grief and necrophilia thing) 

PG- there isn’t enough historical research yet on the subject for her to include it in her books. Thankfully it’s being done now. Plus, it’s hard to know what is lesbian behavior in historical books like, women sleeping in the same bed together in Jane Austen. There’s no intercourse- but why is intercourse the standard of a romantic relationship? 

How they respond to critics that say book is historically inaccurate:

MG: tries to use the sources that are most reliable 

PG: if someone tells me I did something wrong, like someone landed in the wrong place- I alter it in next edition. And send them a signed book as a thank you 

If they say it’s wrong and it’s right I just grind my teeth.

Research organization?

MG- uses note cards , once you have a cohesive story line, easier to lay out 

PG- files and books and such. But it’s the stuff that sticks in the mind that makes the story. As a novelist, you shouldn’t gift the reader your hours and hours of tedious study. They can do that if they want. 

Love of history or writing first? 

MG- First did writing.

PG- loves writing but also loves history. “I’m so blessed to be able to work in a genre that combines the two. I can’t imagine having one without the other .”

EWF Unpacking: Polish Your Pitch and Publishing Masterclass

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I’ve been pretty dilatory about posting up these notes, but I’m slowly getting them out there! Here’s some more useful wisdom from the Emerging Writers’ Festival!

I took very few photos at the festival, but I did manage to get this one of my name tag and my awesome shoes.

I took very few photos at the festival, but I did manage to get this one of my name tag and my awesome shoes.

Polish Your Pitch - Class by Jennifer Baker (publishing professional of 16 years, host of the Minorities in Publishing podcast, contributing editor to Electric Literature, essayist)

I have pages and pages of notes from this class taught by Jennifer Baker, including some very specific suggestions she made for a story I’ve been trying to pitch. Here are some of the highlights though:

  • First, follow the rules on pitching. Actually read the publication’s submission guidelines and make sure you know what type of work they’re working for. It’s a waste of your time and theirs if you pitch something that doesn’t follow their guidelines and/or is just totally wrong for their publication.

  • Your article topics need to be specific and interesting. Your goal is to get a “I haven’t heard this before” from the person you’re pitching to. If you’re writing on a common topic, make sure to specify what makes your spin different and unique.

  • If you can’t find a person’s name or can’t figure out how they identify, it’s okay if you just say “Dear Editor.” Just don’t make assumptions!

  • The editor is coming at your piece with a few things in their minds: “Can you do the thing you’re saying you can do?” “Is it worth my time and effort to pay you?” “Is the structure and voice of the piece there?” You want to be able to answer all these questions in your pitch. The more fleshed out and structured the idea, the less work the editor needs to do to get it up to par.

  • If someone rejects your pitch, don’t take it personally! Jennifer said: “As an editor, I have rarely ever NOT taken a pitch because of someone’s bad writing. I don’t believe in bad writing, but I do see unfocused writing.”

Publishing Masterclass - Class by Jane Friedman (20 years of experience in publishing industry, author of The Business of Being a Writer and The Authors Guild Guide to E-Publishing)

I actually had to leave this class 1/3 of the way through to go volunteer for the festival in another location, but I still learned SO MUCH. I’m really glad I got to go for at least that much.

I found this sweet pupper hanging out in Old Town Alexandria near the festival while walking between events one day. <3

I found this sweet pupper hanging out in Old Town Alexandria near the festival while walking between events one day. <3

  • To submit to publishers, you need:

    • A finished manuscript for a fiction book

    • A book proposal for a nonfiction book

    • For a memoir, you probably should have both a finished manuscript and a book proposal, as some publishers will want one or the other and plenty will want both.

  • Before you submit, you need to make sure your manuscript or proposal is the best you can make it. You need to resolve all the problems or hire someone to do it for you. No one EXPECTS you to hire an editor for revisions, but it’s certainly an option.

  • If you want a large/mid-size publisher, it’s a good idea to get an agent.

  • It’s really important to define the genre of your book so you can find the correct agents and publishers. This can be hard since some book genres are pretty nebulous.

    • For example, “Literary fiction” is sometimes publisher code for “will not sell.” However, once it makes the best seller list, a literary fiction book’s genre tends to magically change to “mainstream fiction.” (There are no particular requirements for either of these genres).

    • You can sometimes get away without picking a genre for your book by comparing it to another work instead, but that doesn’t always work.

  • Hard to sell works: Poetry, collections, multi-genre work, “hard to categorize” books

    • Even if your work is “hard to categorize,” just label it something. People run in the opposite direction at the sound of “hard to categorize.” “If you don’t know, they won’t know either.”

  • Projects that are more commercially viable:

    • Fiction - Genre, commercial, or mainstream narratives of about 80,000 words. You can go as low as 50,000, but that’s as low as you can go. Once you reach 100,000, you’ll get some pushback about it being too long or needing more editing.

    • If you’re trying to get a nonfiction book published by a large publisher, you need a platform. Your visibility and authority can matter as much as the content. They expect you to bring the audience to the publisher, not vice versa.

      • if you’re a journalist or professor or have some sort of career that gives you credibility on a topic, that can help you with your nonfiction author platform.

  • Less commercially viable projects:

    • Narratives that are 120,000+ words.

    • Children’s picture books, cookbooks, travel, short fiction, essay collections, poetry, anthologies of any kind

Emerging Writers Festival Unpacking: Keynote, Fiction Intensive, and Against the Algorithm

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So going over all my notes from the Emerging Writers Festival is helping me recap everything I learned and make sure I put it into practice in my own writing life and practice. In addition, I’m hopeful this might be helpful for others who weren’t able to attend some of the sessions, for whatever reason.

So here are some tidbits and wisdom from the first few sessions I attended at the festival!

Catherine Chung and Tayla Bruney

Catherine Chung and Tayla Bruney

The Keynote with Catherine Chung. She talked about her second novel, The Tenth Muse, with moderator Tayla Burney (a journalist and book reviewer for the Washington Post. She also writes a weekly email newsletter of author events and literary happenings around DC called Get Lit DC; you can subscribe to that here).

  • Cathy said that she had to rewrite her novel several times. “I had to let my narrator have this amazing life. I found sometimes I was the oppressive societal force holding my protagonist back.”

  • She said that she’s had writing retreat experiences where they just feed and house you and you just write all day. “It’s the most quixotic, ecstatic writing experience where you never have to leave the world you’re writing in. It ruins you for life.”

  • At one point, the company she worked for actually did a Christmas skit making fun of her ambition to be a writer. [Isn’t that SO SCREWED UP, seriously??]

  • “Writing rules are silly.” One professor claimed that if you don’t write every day you’re not a writer, but she said that while she was researching for her second novel, there were maybe years where she went without writing. She’s clearly still a writer.

  • For her first novel, she wrote all the time and threw out at least 1,000 pages as part of her process. It seemed like she was just accumulating pages and then throwing them away. But eventually it all came together and she figured out the structure. Her second novel was more structured from the beginning and was a different beast entirely.

  • A friend gave her a headsup before her novel came out: “Every writer gets depressed when their book gets published,” regardless of how well it does in the world or anything. Because you’re going from living entirely in your head to releasing it and waiting to hear what people think of it. Waiting is a terrible feeling. So ahead of her second novel’s release, Cathy decided just not to care.

  • She named the protagonist of her second novel Katherine as a joke, since so many people thought her first novel was an autobiography. However, it kind of backfired because many people still thought her second novel’s protagonist was autobiographical. At one point her wikipedia said that she was a 74-year-old woman; she was kind of sad when it got corrected.

From novelist Catherine Chung’s Fiction Intensive Workshop:

  • Cathy talked a bit about how she found it really interesting to see what people believe and what they don’t believe, as all of fiction is about making things up that people go along with. Sometimes we’re willing to believe the most ridiculous things, and in the current political climate, there’s a constant debate about what is true and false. What determines the stories we believe? What determines the stories we tell and are allowed to tell? (I believe most of the statements in this paragraph are actual quotations from her, but I didn’t notate it well enough in my notes to know for sure, so I’m paraphrasing a bit.)

  • “When you figure out the technical parts of a story, everything else falls into place” – who is the narrator, the audience, what is the shape of the audience.

  • She had us do an exercise where we wrote a letter to someone close to you in which you told them something you’ve never told before. As Cathy said, this premise sets up the central tension of a story from the very beginning. “There’s a reason you haven’t told them this thing before, and there’s a reason you’re telling them now. There’s a potential of how it will change everything.” When there’s an audience member for a story that’s very specific, it puts the tension of the story at the forefront. She pointed out that we don’t usually think about the fact that the speaker in a story is different from the author, and the intended audience and the actual audience are not always the same. Once she started thinking about this, it helped her unlock some things she’d been working on for her first novel.

  • Cathy said her first and only college writing professor said you have to be absolutely subjective about everyone you write. You have to be able to see it from their side, no matter how horrible they are. But you also have to be absolutely objective about yourself.

Against the Algorithm Panel with Lupita Aquino (co-founder and co-moderator of the LIT on H St Book Club at Solid State Books, instagram book reviewer), Amanda Nelson (executive editor of Book Riot), and Kendra Winchester (co-founder of the Reading Women podcast). My notes from this were scribbled into a tiny notebook I bought last minute at Old Town Books while my laptop was charging, so they may not be as detailed or as…in complete sentences as other notes. :)

Panelists gave some great advice about the dos and don’ts of author marketing:

  • Lupita - Engage with people before asking them for a favor or a review. And pay attention to what types of books people are into.

  • Kendra - She suggests engaging in Middle Reader Thursday or other events designed to bring attention to your books. There are lots of hashtags and discussions out there particular to specific genres. You can even reach specific agents this way sometimes. She also suggests you experiment with your marketing; don’t be afraid to be imperfect.

  • Amanda - Be a community member before you start asking for stuff. Find book writers that write about your genre and reach out to them directly. Writers LOVE to hear from authors.

I basically didn’t take any photos on the Saturday of the writing festival at all except this one.

I basically didn’t take any photos on the Saturday of the writing festival at all except this one.

  • Regarding diversity in publishing and books:

    • Amanda - publishing as an industry is overwhelmingly white women at lower levels and white men at the higher levels. The inherent structure is racist and sexist. Her company has a diversity mandate where 30% of their reviews have to be of works by POC authors. They’re very strict about it

    • Lupita - Online, you notice the diversity issues more. We need the options.

    • Amanda- If you say “I just want a good story,” you're saying you just want to read what’s marketed to you. And those books are by authors who are overwhelmingly white, male, and cisgendered.

    • Kendra- You have to work to find the books sometimes and represent them. We need to see more people with disabilities in them. We need more than just Darcy’s cousin and a woman in the attic. She suggests following amazing women as well to learn from them.

    • Moderator Allison Punch - wants to make a distinction between what’s getting buzz and what’s actually written. People of Color have always been writing; we’re just now hearing about them.

  • What they do to help underrepresented authors

    • Amanda - Donates ad campaigns to some independently published books.

    • Kendra - a snowball effect can really help.

    • Amanda - looks out for debut authors in her marketing and tries to promote them.

    • Kendra - Points out that she thinks it’s unfair to debut authors that we expect them to be perfect. They need room to grow and become better.

  • If you want to become a book reviewer on social media

    • Kendra - be consistent with your postings

    • Amanda - have an interesting angle to it. Don’t just post a photo of fairy lights as your cover picture. Like she follows an instagram that only posts library books - she loves that, as it brings out books that are older. Do something unique.

  • How to support books besides tweeting and reviews:

    • Amanda - pre-orders! for libraries even, creates buzz

    • Kendra - create an evergreen post of a list of books - one of their most popular posts ever still is about Muslim women authors.

    • Lupita - pre-order giveaways

    • Amanda - pre-ordering from independent bookstores

  • Pitching to reviewers

    • Kendra - be specific and complimentary. Show familiarity with the reviewer’s work and guidelines.

  • To avoid drama on social media

    • Lupita - Set boundaries - practice self care

    • Kendra - ignore the drama and go to the people that support you

    • Amanda - Remember your job and ignore the rest. Avoid the petty crap.